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Dresden is the true holocaust of the second world war.

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flatpress's avatar

Yeah.. that too.

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Salahuddin Costa's avatar

Keep sharing!

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Norman Gilmore's avatar

Yes Bomber Harris wanted to wipe the Civilian Population ofDres

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Norman Gilmore's avatar

Off Dresden off the Face of the Earth . That obnoxious Churchill went along with it .

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Jenean McBrearty's avatar

Thank-you for the great films you share. Love it.

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Robert Levine's avatar

Warsaw was a beautiful city before the Germans bombed it in 1939. So was Leningrad before it was bombed during the Nazi invasion of the USSR. The true holocaust of WWII was the Holocaust.

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HT Waters's avatar

Yes thank you for this -the other comments are strangely rewriting history- London (Battle of Britain) was the first time civilians were bombed in the war and that was by Nazi Germany - I agree atrocities are everywhere but let’s not rewrite history - Germany invaded Poland- UK took a stand & declared war. The holocaust absolutely happened (we have physical evidence) & was so atrocious people can’t believe it happened & try to deny it - we should not rewrite history because it makes us uncomfortable.

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Guy Dudebro's avatar

The UK first bombed civilians in Berlin on August 25, 1940.

The Germans first bombed civilians in London on September 7, 1940

Those were the first 2 cases of large scale intentional bombing of civilians.

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HT Waters's avatar

Yes I stand corrected except there was some British civilian loss in the outer islands in early March 1940 & Germany was also systematically bombing civilians in Poland. The comments make it sound like Germany is the victim. Just as a reminder: When it comes to Britain vs Germany, we’ll never really know for sure. One thing is certain, however: the Germans were deliberately targeting civilians in Poland, Norway, and the Netherlands

before Britain got involved. Something they practiced in 1937 in Guernica

during the Spanish civil war. They began the bombing of civilians, just not in Britain. Also Germany started WW2 & Hitler just thought England would just roll over - it had nothing to do with peace just furtherance of Germany’s agenda of expansion & the eradication of Jews

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Guy Dudebro's avatar

Churchill terror bombed civilians in Berlin to intentionally provoke the Germans into doing the same thing in England to try and gain sympathy from the USA and drag them into the war, exactly like how they used the civilian deaths in Belgium to influence the Americans to join WWI. Before the bombing of Berlin Hitler was very much against the idea of mass terror bombing of civilian targets. Before that the bombings were just smaller scale tactical bombing of targets in civilian areas and the civilian deaths were considered “perfectly acceptable collateral damage” but maximizing civilian deaths was not the actual main goal of those bombing campaigns. More of a secondary motivation and it was never done at a large scale. The bombing of Berlin changed this and introduced the idea of routine terror bombing to maximize civilian casualties into the war.

Acknowledging this fact is hard for people to do because they don’t want to look like they are defending Hitler, but it’s still true. It was the UK that first opened this Pandora’s box and they did so intentionally.

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HT Waters's avatar

Ok this is my last post - no one should defend Hitler - EVER - it's weird - the following are facts if Britain had not stood the ground and declared war - tell me what we would of had? Eradication of everyone who was not the Aryan race? Next you will tell me the Nazi's were not killing Jews - the following are facts : The war with the most lives lost in human history is World War II.

Estimated Death Toll:

• 70 to 85 million people died as a result of the war (about 3% of the 1940 world population).

• This includes military deaths, civilian casualties, genocide victims (notably the Holocaust), and war-related famine and disease.

Who Started World War II?

Country: Germany

How:

• Germany, under Adolf Hitler, invaded Poland on September 1, 1939.

• This led Britain and France to declare war on Germany on September 3, 1939.

Background:

• The invasion was part of Hitler’s expansionist ideology (“Lebensraum”) and a violation of international treaties.

• Germany had previously annexed Austria (Anschluss) and Czechoslovakia, with little international pushback, emboldening further aggression.

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flatpress's avatar

Here's some facts for you. The Poles were ethnic cleansing the Germans from the region of Poland that was given to them after the treaty of Versailles. Between 50 and 80 thousand Germans were murdered, entire villages burnt. Hitler appealed to the Polish authorities to stop this, they did not. That is why Hitler invaded Poland and that invasion was on land stolen from Germany after WW1. The idea that the Nazis wanted to take over the world is British propaganda. Hitler appealed to Churchill no less than 12 times to make peace with the promise of withdrawing his troops and returning the occupied territories.

As for the Holocaust, that has been well debunked. It would have been impossible to kill and destroy 6 millon people from 1943 to 45. The gas chambers would require hermetic sealing to prevent the death of the guards and nearby villages. The piles of bodies we saw died of typhus. There is plenty more evidence to show it never happened and was impossible. The Jews were rounded up and put in camps as enemy combatants as were Japanese in the US. The Zionists declared war on Germany in 1933!

So yes, history does need to be re written because..as Napoleon said ' history is a lie agreed upon'

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Guy Dudebro's avatar

You are getting emotional and pasting chatGPT responses.

The problem here is that everyone agrees WWII was the worst catastrophe the human race has ever experienced. But whenever someone questions a decision that took place before or during the war everyone freaks out. What if Churchill never started terror bombing Berlin? Would the Germans have done it eventually? Maybe. Maybe not. Who knows. Why can’t we question this decision?

Same with giving war guarantees to Poland. Why did the UK do this? What if they didn’t? What’s the worst thing that could have happened? Hitler conquers Poland? WWII happens? Yeah this is what actually happened in real life. The worst case scenario for these “what if” questions always ends up being the actual reality that happened in real life.

It’s ok to question some of these decisions. It doesn’t make you a Hitler lover. You don’t need to worry about that. No one is defending Nazis here.

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britanniaboudica's avatar

Before you promote NAZI MEMES have a look what the NAZIS did to COVENTRY before.

We have a word for utter destruction now it is COVENTRATED and it is done by NAZIS not the allies.

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Guy Dudebro's avatar

500 people died in Coventry. If you want to claim equivalence you are missing a few zeros.

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britanniaboudica's avatar

Go away NAZI

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flatpress's avatar

Germany as a consolidated nation had only existed for around 60 years at this point and it threatened the British empire hegemony. This is the reason for both wars, along with the removal of Zionist central banking and usury.

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Untrickled by Michelle Teheux's avatar

You sound like a fucking Nazi

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flatpress's avatar

Do I? How come?

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Untrickled by Michelle Teheux's avatar

You’re blaming everyone but Hitler, for starters

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flatpress's avatar

Everyone except Hitler? I blame everyone including Hitler. FDR, Stalin, Churchill, Hitler and all the other dirty rotten bastards who send us to war while they sat back safe in their ivory tower. I'm just sick of them putting all the blame on Hitler when they were just as bad. Stalin killed 20 million Christians. Churchill refused to make peace and was responsible for deaths in Ireland and Africa, the Dardanelles etc. FDR knew pearl harbour was going to happen and allowed it, to get the US into the war and allowed 2 million German soldiers starve to death when captured. They're all as evil as eachother.

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Untrickled by Michelle Teheux's avatar

You put Churchill in the same category as Hitler and Stalin?

That’s gross.

No, FDR didn’t know about Pearl Harbor, or at leaet there’s no reason to think so. That’s a nutty conspiracy theory, right up there with ivermectin curing cancer or 9-11 actually being caused by bombs.

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flatpress's avatar

Yawn! So you call me a conspiracy theorist, the last refuge of a clueless troll who knows nothing about a subject. Followed by the predictable 'probably think 911 was an inside job' or 'probably thinkthe earth is flat!!' Pathetic! You clearly haven't got a clue of what your talking about because you clearly have done zero research. FDR was warned about pearl harbour well in advance. This is now well known. The other points I made are facts, if you research you will find out. It's not my job to educate you so I'm not going to waste anymore time on yet another troll. Bye bye 👋

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GBH's avatar

And, homosexuality… hence demise of brown shirts

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mothman777's avatar

Churchill is reported as having consulted with his RAF commanders and having asked them: "How shall we light up 600,000?", also as gleefully and sadistically saying: "We shall baste them in their own fat".

Centuries ago, the German Christian people in Dresden had taken several Jews to court and convicted them of crimes against the German people there for which several Jews were then executed by burning.

The incendiary bomb and high explosive bomb attacks on civilian people in Dresden including vast numbers of refugees there in WWII were purposely made to take place by Jewish arrangement on the exact anniversary of those executions of Jews centuries earlier by burning, which Churchill clearly sought to avenge many thousand-fold in his demented alcoholic insanity.

Churchill, born to a Jewish New York socialite woman nee Jerome, was clearly Jewish himself, and along with his German-hating principal scientific advisor and friend the homosexual Jewish First Viscount Cherwell, Lindemann, they clearly worked towards this utterly barbaric, totally unjustified and inhuman end.

Yet the Jews themselves centuries ago were executed in places like Dresden and Vienna for first having engaged in very serious crimes such as the killing of Christians there, as all Christians are regarded under Jewish law as Second Rome Amalek, whom the Jewish scriptures state must all be killed.

The Torah says that of all the Gentiles in the entire world, there are to be "no survivors" according to Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi.

The Zohar states that all Gentiles in the world will be exterminated and sent to hell.

Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts:

To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.

Libbre David 37

A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them.

Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17

Kill the Goyim by any means possible.

Choshen Ha'mishpat 425:50

Everyone who sheds the blood of the impious [non-Jews] is as acceptable to God as he who offers a sacrifice to God.

Yalkut 245c

Extermination of the Christians is a necessary sacrifice.

Zohar, Shemoth

https://rense.com/general86/talmd.htm

Tob shebbe goyyim harog - Even the best of the Goyim (Gentiles) should be killed.

Soferim 15, Rule 10

[NB: Hoffman says, "This passage is not from the Soncino edition but is from the original Hebrew of the Babylonian Talmud as quoted by the 1907 Jewish Encyclopedia, published by Funk and Wagnalls and compiled by Isidore Singer, under the entry, 'Gentile,' (p. 617)."]

All Israelites will have a part in the future world... The Goyim, at the end of the world will be handed over to the angel Duma and sent down to hell.

Zohar, Shemoth, Toldoth Noah, Lekh-Lekha

A Jew may do to a non-Jewess what he can do. He may treat her as he treats a piece of meat.

Hadarine, 20, B; Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348

Do not save Goyim in danger of death.

Show no mercy to the Goyim.

Hilkkoth Akum X1

Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night.

Midrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L

Everything a Jew needs for his church ritual no goy is permitted to manufacture, but only a Jew, because this must be manufactured by human beings and the Jew is not permitted to consider the goyim as human beings.

Schulchan Oruch, Orach Chaim 14, 20, 32, 33, 39

If a goy killed a goy or a Jew he is responsible, but if a Jew killed a goy he is not responsible.

Tosefta, Aboda Zara, VIII, 5

Happy will be the lost of Israel, whom the Holy One, blessed be He, has chosen from amongst the Goyim, of whom the Scriptures say: "Their work is but vanity, it is an illusion at which we must laugh; they will all perish when God visits them in His wrath." At the moment when the Holy One, blessed be He, will exterminate all the Goyim of the world, Israel alone will subsist, even as it is written: "The Lord alone will appear great on that day!... "

Zohar, Vayshlah 177b

The Jews have a very different mindset to Gentile human beings, but the average conditioned Gentile human mindset tends to think in limited human terms when considering the parameters of consciousness of all others, as if all others, including Jews, must be similarly bound by certain constraints, but sadly, this approach is entirely impractical.

Jewish leaders like Rabbi Menachem Schneerson and Rabbi Michael Laitman from two different kabbalistic rabbinical sects have stated that Jews are from another dimension entirely, not only that, but that Jews still retain qualities of both body and soul from this other dimension unperceived by the Gentiles, and that the bodies and souls of all Jews are entirely different and superior in quality to those of all Gentiles.

Most Gentile people very naively do not suspect the vast range of psychic abilities possessed by the Jews that the Jews heavily misuse in an entirely godless and demonic fashion, vainly hoping for Jews to eventually become their sincere friends and allies, but such Gentiles will forever wait in vain, as the selfish arrogant elitist Jewish intent towards all Gentiles is inconceivably hateful and sadistic and inevitably ultimately only totally lethal.

But Jews are highly adept in masking their unique form of malice as they parasitically feed on our Gentile cultures in such an entirely corrosive manner as can only destroy any Gentiles who foolishly continue to permit this entirely hostile and warlike alien interdimensional species in their deceptive human skin suits of various racial colours and appearances to dwell among them.

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Rick Evans's avatar

Who started bombing cities?

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flatpress's avatar

The British started bombing cities. They also declared war on Germany in both world wars and refused to make peace after multiple requests from the Germans.

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flatpress's avatar

The British bombed Dusseldorf and Cologne on the 22nd of September and 8th of October 1914 which predates the Zeppelin bombing of London by over a year.

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Rick Evans's avatar

In both those cases the Zeppelin sheds were bombed, not the cities themselves. Bombing the population as a means to reduce morale and undermine support for the war isn’t the same thing as targeting military installations where civilians happen to be.

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flatpress's avatar

I agree with your point that targeting military installations and targeting residential areas to reduce moral are very different. I'm not sure if Britain bombed residential before the Germans did. Frankly, I feel the leaders of all countries involved failed their people miserably for allowing the two most outrageous and devastating wars in history to take place at all and as with all wars it was based on hegemony and profit more than political ideology. War is base and infantile. I wish to God humanity would grow up.

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The Jew Churchill stated that he wished to create a war psychosis in the British who at that time were not keen for the most part on a second war against Germany, a war they saw no real reason for, so Churchill machinated to give them a sense of vengeful hatred against the Germans that he would artificially create, and in so doing he himself was directly responsible for tens of thousands of civilian deaths in England during the Blitz that would not otherwise have occurred at all.

Churchill had secretly ordered the RAF to terror bomb civilian areas in Germany against current war convention being followed by Germany, who was not then bombing civilian areas in England at all.

The amount of bombs dropped by England on Germany was about 12 times what Germany ever dropped on England.

If you study a book showing locations and photographs of every single German bomb hit site in London for example, you will see that London was only lightly peppered in reality compared to the total flattening of entire cities and towns throughout much of Germany.

Churchill had the RAF continually bomb German civilian areas for 3.5 months without Germany ever reciprocating by bombing civilian areas in England back throughout all that time, as Germany continued obeying the codes of war despite this constant provocation.

Churchill did this knowing that when Hitler grew exasperated after his offers of peace to England were constantly rejected by Churchill, and Germany was ultimately forced to bomb England back on its civilian areas, that the misinformed (and very evidently STILL misinformed) British public would be enraged and enter into a state desired by the Jew Churchill, suitable for HIS Jewish war, of 'war psychosis', as the British Gentiles would mistakenly think that Germany was the first to initiate bombings of civilians and then very passionately demand violent vengeance against even civilians in Germany, without ever knowing how the twisted Jew Churchill had played them to murder their brothers, and that is exactly what happened.

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flatpress's avatar

The question was 'started bombing cities first ' the answer was The British on the 22nd of September 1914. So it's you who are incorrect about me being incorrect.

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Actually, so did I, but someone made a comment about the Germans bombing London in WW1 being the first to do so. Turns out it was the British on Cologne and Düsseldorf about a year before. Personally I would love humanity to grow up and stop trying to kill eachother. We seem to be trapped in a playground full of bullies.

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Gene Baldini's avatar

Yes, Dresden was a tit for tat English reprisal for the German destruction of Coventry. Claming the moral high ground is easy. Living up to it often requires unattainable restraint.

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Tony's avatar

All on the orders of rothschilds the signal to Hitler England's was in the bag.

Hitler reciprocated bombing city's in England.

Deliberately changing the demographics.

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Gene Baldini's avatar

I think you've got the chronology wrong. Coventry came first, an explicit act of terrorism. The English knew it was coming, but Churchill had to sit on his hands and let it happen BECAUSE if he didn't the Germans would have known the English had broken the German code ENIGMA. Don't know where you get the idea of a Rothschild connection.

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I listened to a documentary where Jacob Rothschild stated Quote "YES we funded Hitler and told him he needs something for the people to hate, pick the orthodox jew and tell them to go to Israel and those who refuse Send them to the concentration camps, after this no-one will dare be antisemitic"

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Gene Baldini's avatar

Strange this “tell them to go to israel” thing because Israel didn't exist until 1946 when G.B. and the U.S. decided create it by giving away what was a British “protectorite” called Palestine. Also there was plenty of organized historical precedents for anti Jewish sentiment in europe from the middle ages till the pogroms in Russia around 1904. That the Rothschild's (Jews) had their fingers lotsa pies is well documented too. That Hitler, at the beginning was seen as a stabilizing force in Europe against communism even by the US state dept. Genocide is nothing new…..just ask the Armenians for one. It would be easy as well as redundant to go on and on in that regard.

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Don’t you know they also organised the bombing of Pearl Harbour, the ‘Rape if Nanking’, the San Francisco Earthquake, the Charge of the Light Brigade?

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Edwin power's avatar

My father told me (RAF) he didn’t understand why we Brit’s bombed the shit out of Dresden

Now I know

Tatarian buildings

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Helene krohn's avatar

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Rosey Mattson's avatar

Yeah, those poor Germans just sitting there not bothering anyone while the heartless Allies bombed them. What planet are you on? Do you know ANY history?

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Carol Mc Mahon's avatar

Murder is murder, the excuses don’t matter!

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Sarah Jean Cooper's avatar

I am surprised to come across this anywhere. Having been brought up for the most part in Plymouth in the late 1950’s and 1960’s. Having become a clockmaker and learned real history. Remember Coventry? That was the English centre for horology. My Mother at 93 still is traumatised by losing her Father and repeatedly talks about her school friend lost in a raid on London and how the body of the maid was blown up the chimney. I grew up on bomb sites. The results of the blitz on Plymouth. The Germans had help after the war to rebuild but we in the U.K. had a huge debt to pay for war loans which wasn’t paid until 2006 to both Canada and the USA. My Mother’s Father was a witness to the enslaving of Europe and the Genocide. He was blinded at the end of the War and was brought back to England with his interpreter who was a Jewish survivor. My Gran had survived with three children in her way but could not relate to a blind man who she had not seen for five years. My Grandfather married his interpreter and worked for the BBC helping thousands of men like him who came back with an injury. So who is going to be more bloody angry when the Germans, who staged the invasion by the Poles to invade Poland, betrayed Stalin, caused the deaths of 80 million people(?) and brought everyone into a World War which we shall never forget. For some child who did not experience rationing or discover shelters where everyone died to start complaining again like they did after WW1. Sick making.

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John Lewis's avatar

Now imagine this, Canadian bombers over New York City. I know who reads this will say that’ll never happen, but I have a feeling the Germans said the same thing.

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